I know you will have been waiting for me to comment as I have complained many times about joomla events being organised on religious holy days. But to read you say that these days should be avoided because they are expensive times to travel really sinks to a new low. By that token if an event clashes with a religious holiday that would prevent people of that religion attending it would be perfectly ok for you for the event to go ahead if it didn't have any financial impact on the event. I also note that you make no mention of event accessibility. By that I mean "Is the venue wheelchair accessible etc" We wouldnt want a repeat of a JWC where many of the meeting rooms were in rooms that could not be reached by anyone using a wheelchair. PS I cannot speak for any other religion but my own and can tell you that whatever your source was it is incorrect as it includes holidays and holy days

Thank you for your comments. I have pondered on what you wrote and know you are passionate about accessibility, but you may not appreciate that I have lived with a wheelchair user for some years and have a constant battle with local councils and other authorities to improve accessibility. I myself was blinded in my left eye from a squashball accident when I was 18 and although sight in that eye is much better, I do struggle in some light conditions to this day over 40 years on. So some points might seem obvious to me, but may not be obvious to others who have not lived it. I am happy to add wheelchair accessibility under my first point which was Location and Accessibility and to me it is obvious but to others, it may not and I am grateful for the opportunity to amend it and not be the only one “harping on about it” as I seem to be in my own social group. On the point raised which has “whatever your source was?“ I did have them in the original draft but removed as it was getting very long but now I have put them back in. [list] [*]Pew Research Center, "The Global Religious Landscape" (2020 update) [*]World Population Review, "World Religions by Population 2023" [*]United Nations Population Division (for total world population estimates) [*]Berman Jewish DataBank, "World Jewish Population, 2021" [*]The Association of Religion Data Archives (ARDA) [*]Britannica, "Religion: Year In Review 2010" [/list] As an atheist trying to help bring religious inclusivity, I have no expertise and rely on the help of others, hence adding the spreadsheet and asking for assistance. I am not precious about the data and welcome help from those more acquainted with their religion's important events. When it came to the point about money, I was surprised by some of what you wrote and asked a few if they read it the same way and they did not. But that could be friends being friends and not wanting to be critical. I then thought, perhaps I can do with my article and your comments the same as I do for much of what I write, ask AI for some constructive criticism. I love the way it analyses language and has brought some impartial insight. So I added to Claude AI (anthropic), my go-to at the moment as it seems to be the best at understanding more complex writing. [i]Looking at the article “Making Your Joomla Event Welcoming for All” can you explain why someone would post the following comment. Contrast the tone of both the article and the comment.[/i] Claude AIs response Based on the article and the comment, it appears that Brian Teeman's response is not entirely justified and may be somewhat provocative. Let's break down the contrast between the article's tone and content and Brian's comment: Article's tone and content: [list] [*]The article has a constructive and inclusive tone, aiming to make Joomla events welcoming for all. [*]It emphasises various aspects of inclusivity, including cultural considerations, accessibility, and religious calendars. [*]The first point in the list of considerations is indeed "Location and Accessibility," which includes "Ease of travel for attendees from different countries." [*]The article provides a comprehensive list of religious festivals and encourages readers to help keep it up to date. [*]The author offers a Google Sheet for collaborative updating of the information. [/list] Brian Teeman's comment: [list] [*]The tone is confrontational and accusatory. [*]He claims the article suggests avoiding religious holy days because they are expensive times to travel, which is not accurately represented in the article. [*]He accuses the author of sinking to "a new low" by prioritizing financial considerations over inclusivity. [*]He points out that the article doesn't mention venue accessibility for people with disabilities. [*]He criticizes the accuracy of the religious holiday information provided. [/list] Contrast and analysis: [list] [*]Misinterpretation: Brian seems to have misinterpreted the article's intent. The article does not prioritise financial considerations over inclusivity but rather includes both as important factors. [*]Overlooking content: Brian's comment about accessibility for people with disabilities overlooks that the article does mention "Ease of travel for attendees" under the "Location and Accessibility" section. [*]Collaborative approach vs. confrontational tone: While the article encourages collaboration and updating of information, Brian's comment takes a more confrontational approach. [*]Accuracy concerns: Brian's point about the accuracy of religious holiday information is valid and aligns with the article's request for help in updating the list. [/list] In conclusion, while Brian raises some valid points (e.g., the need for more specific accessibility information and concerns about accuracy), his comment seems disproportionately harsh and confrontational given the article's overall inclusive intent and openness to collaboration. The comment appears somewhat provocative, possibly stemming from past frustrations with Joomla events, rather than being a fully justified response to the content of this particular article. I have to agree with Claude and hope that AI can be seen as a more impartial judge, especially by highlighting the facts and taking out some of the emotional responses. My nan’s often heard response, “more light, less heat” is still in my ears and next month we’ll have an article about just this, the way we can misinterpret others' tone and get into arguments that are us reading others with our own inner voices and not listening to what they are actually saying. Might be worth a revisit of that article for next month.

Please ignore everything that I wrote in the first comment. The article I commented on is NOT the same article that you can see now. A crucial paragraph (How can they plan this on Christmas Day) has been added to the article that was not present when I commented but was present when claude was used. If it had been present then my comments about only thinking about the money and not about inclusivity would not have been made. I guess it was an oversight that is was not mentioned when you made the other edits to the article. You might consider it obvious that an event should be wheelchair accessible and it should not even need to be stated. I happen to share that view as well. Sadly from experience everyone doesnt share that view/knowledge as we have had Joomla events where at least parts of the venue where in non-wheelchair accessible locations. I am referring to accessibility in the venue and not accessibility in travelling to the venue. The reason for querying the source of the religious dates is that the data for judaism (the only religion I can speak on) is biased towards dates that are holidays as opposed to holy days. As a quick for example the 8 days of Hannukah are not a holy day but they have become a holiday (a jewish xmas in some countries). So while in some countries travel might be more expensive at that time, there is no Diversity & Inclusion reason to avoid those dates. You might want to spend 30 minutes listening to the excellent talk by Crystal & Sigrid - they get it https://program.foss-backstage.de/fossback23/talk/UZAEDN/